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Hawkins Entrekin's avatar

Its always possible but I think the risk is low. Many generalists misunderstand how REIT debt is structured. The vast majority of the debt for each company is property level and not recourse to the parent company. For example VNO has about $2.6 billion in corporate debt vs $1.3 in cash. They have plenty of unencumbered assets - most notable is the Farley building which they have spent $1.1 billion on and is leased to Facebook for 15 years (low 6s yield on cost). So just one building + cash covers basically all of VNO's corporate debt.

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Reducing Uncertainty's avatar

Fantastic article, thanks for sharing. I agree with almost everything but have 2 questions

1. If the structural decline in demand from WFH is realized as leases roll off, why is it crazy to assume we're only halfway through given the avg oREIT WALT?

2. Good chart on tech layoffs. While I realize office-using employment is white collar vs. total employment, it feels like we have a ways to go for currently record-low levels of unemployment to normalize on the back of Powell's hiking cycle

Those are my only 2 areas of pushback. Thanks again, great article

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